Top 5 Goth Myths Busted

Top 5 Goth Myths Busted


– Hey friends, welcome
back, it’s great to see you. I’m Courtney, and I’ve got Nyx and Phaedra right here next to me. They just finished getting groomed, so Nyx is like, I’ve
got to look at my toes, I don’t like how they did my toes. Just kidding. Today I’m going to tell
you the top five Goth myths that I’ve heard and dispel them for you. So number one on my list is, you don’t have to wear
Killstar to be Goth. You may wonder why this
is number one on my list, and you may wonder if I’m
wearing a Killstar shirt, which I’m not, I believe this
shirt is from Rogue & Wolf, but in all seriousness,
the reason I put this as the number one, the top myth, is that I’ve seen so much
over the past couple years that people say if you
can’t wear Killstar, you can’t be Goth, and that’s not true. Anything that you wear
is Goth if you’re Goth. If you love Goth music and you’re into Goth
music, then you’re Goth. And I have a recent
video on how to shop Goth in a regular department store, because that’s how I shop all of the time, so I’m going to insert a link to that up here for you to check out. Number two, the second myth
that I hear all the time is that you have to have
porcelain skin to be Goth, and the truth is, no you don’t. You do not have to have porcelain skin. You can have any skin tone and be Goth, because again, being Goth primarily is first and foremost about the music, secondary about the fashion
and everything else. Trust me, I love Gothic fashion, but you don’t have to have
pale skin like mine to be Goth, and I really hate that
people feel like that, and I think because there’s been such an uptick in the past couple of years with like, the white supremacy movement, I feel like you’re getting, like, all of these creepy fuckin’ racist people coming into the Goth subculture and being like, oh yeah,
you have to be pale. No, no you don’t, that is not a thing. Just, you know, that’s not a thing, so don’t worry if you
don’t have pale skin, it’s absolutely, perfectly fine. You can be Goth without it. Number three, the myth is that you have to be depressed to be Goth. That is absolutely not true. Sure, there are plenty of people who are Goth who are depressed, but I really feel that
that’s not the, what is it? Correlation is not causation. The reason that these people are depressed is because they’re depressed, it’s like, depression
affects something like 300 million people worldwide, so I think it’s far more common that people have depression than are Goth. I myself am called a perky Goth because I’m usually
pretty cheerful and happy. I’m fine with that, other
people don’t like it at all, but you don’t have to be morose and mope all the time if you want to be Goth, you just have to listen to Goth music. Number four, you have to be a witch or worship Satan to be Goth. No, you don’t have to
be any of those things. I know plenty of people who are
Goth who are also Christian, I know plenty of people who
are Goth who are atheists, I know plenty of people who are Goth who are Methodist,
Protestant, Catholic, Jewish, you know, anything, and of course witches. So I know plenty of people who are Goth. Anybody can be Goth and be any religion, you don’t have to be a Satanist, you don’t have to be a witch. Some of us just happen
to like being witches. Number five, and this myth
particularly irritates me. It’s that Goth girls are sluts. So, no, no, they’re not,
and it really makes me upset that people are like, yeah, I’m just going to go out and
get a big-titty Goth girl. Uh-huh, alright, we’ve heard that before. In my opinion, sexuality
is an individual thing for everyone on this planet, so you have people who are asexual, you have people who are pansexual, you have people who are queer, who are bisexual, straight, gay, whatever. You have people who have
all different orientations. I identify as bisexual,
pansexual, polyamorous and queer, and I’m still not sleeping with you. I’m very, very picky. I just, it bugs me. I’m somebody who’s not into casual sex, so it really bothers me that people have this mistaken impression that
all Goth girls are sluts, ’cause it’s just not the case, like, yeah. Alright, so those are
the top five Goth myths that I’ve heard dispelled. Please let me know your
thoughts in the comments below. If you liked this video, please give it a thumbs up and share. I love it when you share my videos and it really, really,
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see you in my next video.

34 Comments

  • Faearye says:

    I'm goth, since I was 14, I'm 30 now, I used to dress pure black but now I like more pastel, so I guess I'm considered pastel goth? perky goth?, the thing is: i'm still goth bc i listen to goth music and live the subculture, so I don't understand why people get sooo crazy about the clothes, is like, the less important part of the subculture? lol, not like is not important at all, but still…is not that important…You could be nude with a sombrero in your head and still being goth.

  • Michelle J says:

    I don't even know who/what that first brand you mentioned is/was. Goth has been around since at least the 70s. To be goth, it's more about listening to Sisters of Mercy. I do NOT wear a ton of black anymore. I'm 47. I got bored with black. But I still have a Pandora playlist called "Goose Lamp" that plays Sisters of Mercy, Siouxsie, Skinny Puppy (okay, SKA), Smiths, Joy Division, Mazzie Star etc. Every decade or so, goth gets another flavor. Now it's goth in Instagram, and with brand names. There was a grunge goth (minus the flannel) at the same time as big hair-and-winged-sunglasses goth, and very anti-brand name. And people have always argued about what it is, and what it isn't…so some things never change.

  • jenny koppy says:

    Well this was my lesson of the day? I had no ideas first and foremost Goth was about the music! Secondly, I just looked up all the sexual ways in which you identify yourself. I though queer was the queer politically incorrect way to say gay- nope. And learned what those last two you identify with were. I forget how to spell them. I just thought you had to have hooded eyes to be Goth๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚

  • SaucerJess says:

    ๐Ÿ’š๐Ÿ’š๐Ÿ’š

  • jenny koppy says:

    Man, I'm confused. I have friends who listen to bands considered goth, but identify more with the punk scene…

  • Keira Pearson says:

    I loved this video, and thank you for sharing your thoughts.But the link wonโ€™t work when I try to click it..โ˜น๏ธ

  • antoniac1234 says:

    The second one is simply a reflection of racism in western countries – It's gross. There's this band hyped on Vice for a while a couple of years ago, Prayers, that really brought out the anti- PoC feelings in goth people for some reason. I got into an argument with some idiot DJ who considered himself the arbiter of Gothic music in our local scene. He claimed Prayers couldn't be gothic because their music featured themes of violence and gang warfare. These dumbasses are out there dancing to "Bind, Torture, Kill" and are worried about violence in music? Yea, that was transparently about Prayers being fronted by an obviously non-white male who sang about things that occur in poverty-stricken PoC neighborhoods. (But yeah, Lefar is a dirtbag though lol)

    Sorry, that second thing brought that awful confrontation back up for me. And don't get me started on these awful sugar skulls I see all over the place now. Another thing I'd say is you don't have to dress up all the time to be goth. I have an 8-5 job in a law firm and can't dress like I would want to, but people kind of know what my preferences are, even when I don't reveal them.

  • badgothnobiscuit says:

    There is no list of hard and fast rules. Sometimes very young people are still getting their minds around this.

  • LN Box&Co says:

    Well, fake ideas against reality is hard sometimes, just being themselves, that is what people should care about๐Ÿ˜

  • JackOllie4 says:

    Thanks for the great video. I'm not Goth, but am Goddess-y. People seem to be more and more locked into their myopic views about everything. Thanks for a refreshing reminder that the world is full of gray zones and flexibility.

  • Alex P says:

    Number two is hands down the most important thing to remember. Goth subculture is a culture of otherness, and excluding those who have been othered by society is literally the least goth thing you could do.

  • Liz Torres says:

    This could be interesting. My prejudices are that they are mean, aggressive outcasts, with weird relationship configurations, unorthodox aesthetic preferences, and an appreciation for horror/scifi movies. I also find them a bit scary because they refuse to follow the norm, so It makes me a bit uncomfortable to interact with them. I also think they look beautiful, and I love the whole musical and dress aesthetic despite what I just wrote. I dressed and styled myself close to what would be considered goth in my teens and early 20`s, just a softened version of it. I wore beautiful, black, chunky shoes with thick platforms in hi-school that literally no one else wore but me. I dyed a good portion of my hair teal and blue, wore chains on my black pants, with thick, black boots, and black lipstick when I went out to eat, parties or to art galleries etc. I listened to music and watched/enjoyed movies considered goth or that were popular in the community. Then, was I a mean aggressive outcast with a soft spot for horror and scifi movies? Well, kind of. Do I have a weird relationship configuration? Absolutely not; Im very traditional there, I like the stability and personal growth that comes with traditional relationships. Its just a prejudice that I haven't thought over; I wonder what you have to say about it. Gonna watch this now :3

  • Sinndy Morr says:

    I heard this song recently on Pandora. We play Indie/Folk for our granddaughter. (she is 14 months old) The song is Ten Thousand Words by The Avett Brothers. The song lyrics REALLY got me thinking. I hope you can look the song up here on The Tube and see how the song applies to many things in life. ๐Ÿ’œ๐Ÿ’œ I tried to link it for you but my phone is being a bully!!!

  • Sharon Baker says:

    Excellent video! I think itโ€™s important that you acknowledged the racism that is unfortunately happening in some parts of the subculture. I wish I could shake these people and scream in their faces, โ€œBiologically all Homo sapiens are descendants of the same two parents!!! Itโ€™s 2019!!! Wake up!!!โ€
    Sorry, itโ€™s been a tough week๐Ÿ˜ณ
    Thank you for taking the time to make this video!!!๐Ÿ’™๐Ÿ’™๐Ÿ’™๐ŸŒˆ๐ŸŒˆ๐ŸŒˆ

  • faeriecrypt says:

    I appreciate this! I admire the goth aesthetic, the music, the art, the fashion–everything! Just do whatever makes you happy! I don't identify as goth or any subculture in particular; I'm just me. However, I LOVE so many facets of goth. If the goth police want to waste time and energy calling others and me out, let them be miserable. ๐Ÿ˜‰ Exclusion isn't cool.

  • Kath TheFabZilla says:

    Great video. Just do you and the rest are just myth, like you said.

  • Allison Cohen says:

    Yay for breaking myths and false stereotypes!

  • Marcia Friedman says:

    These myths needed to be busted. Sometimes being Goth is a phase, other times it's a lifestyle. Live the lifestyle you love as long as you don't hurt others.

  • Lola Seicento says:

    Good for you for busting these myths!

  • Cindy Ingalls says:

    Thanks for busting these myths. Everyone needs to just be themselves.

  • Marianne Pendleton says:

    Great giveaway!

  • Stephanie Louise Telford says:

    I always find it so sad when people think others doing what they want to do is a phase! I hope not!

  • Gabrielle L says:

    This is great! Thank you! Because I've been listening to goth music since I was 8, but I've never really adopted what most consider the goth clothing style.

  • Jessica Gipson says:

    Great video…

  • Aytakk says:

    Good video! You covered them well.

  • CocoAndTheBombshell says:

    I never understand why people feel the need to create ridiculous rules with subcultures. A lot of are attracted to subcultures not only because we love the music and aesthetic; but, we like thinking outside of the box, we hate being fenced in. We hate the inane "supposed to's" & "just because" explanations of mainstream society. So why create rigid in the box thinking? It just serves to create what we were trying to get away from.

  • Sweet Insanity says:

    I can't fucking STAND the stigma that goth or general alternative chicks are all kinky sluts that'll open their legs for everyone. Yes, I have met a lot that are like that, unfortunately, so they end up making up the standard, but there are plenty of alt chicks that aren't like that (and plenty of non-alt chicks that are). I'm a very picky person as well and once went 7 YEARS without sex in my 20's after my then fiance passed away and I kinda just kept to myself. I love sex like the next person, but I'm a very monogamous person that has standards. I'm actually beginning to think I'm demisexual now, actually. I've noticed I have zero interest in casual sex anymore. Oh and I hate how it's automatically assumed you're this s&m dominatrix also. I'm not your "mistress," move along. Sorry, that particular stigma has always really, really bugged me…

  • bcgrote says:

    We found an album of "Gothabilly", like goth and rockabilly, it is fantastic! And we love Voltaire, he's a great guy. We'll listen to anything, really, from hard rock and prog to classical and classic jazz. Good music is good music! We may not look goth, more like middle aged whatever, but we have a dark side!

  • 1AlwaysNYC 1 says:

    I've never even heard of the term killstar! This was an education.

  • Jess in king says:

    speaking of which, i've tagged you in a goth music tag!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUIXa5THwkQ

  • Glo Patterson says:

    I am not goth but I am alway up for learning something new

  • rana durham says:

    I APPRECIATE ALL THE INFO YOU TEACH US DAILY

  • Chelsea Menscer says:

    Thereโ€™s so many stereotypes. Thanks for myth busting

  • Mistressmorte Morte says:

    I love the aesthetic and the music equally! Iโ€™ve always taken the approach that Iโ€™m โ€œgoth on the inside โ€œ at all times even when I have to dress to fit in, I know who I am.

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